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28 December 2010

The Sustanon saga continues....

A while ago I placed some pics and warning on the site about fake Nile Sustanon doing the rounds. I have received countless e-mails from all over the world with all sorts of information, theories and counter arguments. Basically it has led me write this summary on the subject to clear up some confusion.

Firstly we nee to look at some stated fact that has come out of all this. Firstly, I never said that all Nile Sustanon is fake; I said quite clearly that there is real Nile Sustanon. Secondly, the first pic that went up on the site went there for three reasons. One, I used it and I can tell you it did nothing, coupled with a number of seasoned users that said the same thing, secondly a number of people tried to swap these Nile vials with the real Pakistani ones and attempted to send them back to the guy they bought it from, this happened to 2 suppliers, now why would somebody do that with real Sustanon? Thirdly, it became quite clear that the price at which these vials where being sold at, R25-35/vail was highly suspect.

Since then some more facts became clear and you’ll see this form some the fake and real pictures that was forwarded to me. Here is where we are.

-There is real Nile Sustanon that goes for around R75 to R85 per vial. These look like the real thing according to the pictures.

-Then there is fake Nile Sustanon going around, and you can identify them trough the pictures.

- Then, there is counterfeit Nile Sustanon going around, so it looks like the real thing, and in some cases looks like the fake ones, but it contains the actives according to the guys that are making them. (This information I was told so I don’t know if it is true or not.) You’ll agree that this is suspect no matter which way you look at it, but lets give them the benefit of the doubt for now. I have to add in that I personally believe some of these vial are filled with some or other active, a test ester in a low dose maybe 50mg/ml.
- Then there is fake Sustanon that look like the real thing.

All this can get a little confusing but it makes since if you look at it from the following perspective. The reason people fake stuff is because the original brand does well and has a good reputation. Simple enough, but another reason is that is less considered is that sometimes a market has been created for a certain brand outside the normal marketing done by the original manufacturer. Steroids are an excellent example. Many pharmaceutical manufacturer produces steroids that really only sold because of athletes and the black market and not for medical reasons.

In some cases a change in manufacturing policy, product strategy, company strategy or legislation can lead to the product drying up. The company decides it is not making it anymore or local laws create problems of some kind. The black market dealer finds himself with huge demand and no supply. In cases like this people start to manufacture products to supply the demand. While athletes will agree that this is beneficial as far as their need for products are concerned, it also cause people to get into the manufacturing side that really don’t know what they are doing. Initially, ripping off packaging seems like the big problem, but really it making the products that’s is the tricky part. It costs money, money pharmaceutical companies have coupled with infrastructure that makes it possible for them to make there products in the first place, money the black-market guys rarely have. The same goes for skills and expertise. Of course the evidence of this kid of manufacturing going to the next level with regard to very good products are also evident in may manufacturers that have their own brand build on the black market or even the legit market as far as local laws are concerned.

Even these guys that produce good quality good are having major problems with their brands being ripped off these days as well. It is in this that the problem ultimately lies. We as athletes demand certain products and we create the need to supply these products. We then are pretty much at the mercy of those that supply us. Sometimes you get lucky and you find a good supply of stuff that works, but rarely you really know for a fact that what you are getting is the real thing. Nile Sustanon is a good example. The are many different vials but it would seem logical to me that if you are going to go to the trouble of faking something you will fake it so it looks exactly like the real thing.

We at the end of the line, far away from all the facts often get the wrong end of the stick because we don’t have all the information. Again we try to use what we have to draw conclusions. A manufacturer may have factories in different parts of a country or in different countries altogether. The same brand and product is made under licence by numerous factories in many countries and all this means is that packaging, colour and consistency may well differ greatly across a certain product range. We don’t often have the facts because of these things so we become suspicious and skeptical over the slightest change in the status quo and rightly so for all the right reasons.

In summary, this is how I feel about Nile Sustanon; there is consistent and reliable supply of Pakistani and Indian Sustanon in the country. It seems clear that the real Nile Sustanon is selling at roughly the same price. My feeling is that there is no real reason to go through all this to find out if the Nile Sustanon you are buying is real because there are far more secure alternatives in the form of Pakistani and Indian Sustanon but then that could all change in an instant for all the reason discussed above.

Ok somebody is bringing in real Nile Sustanon and fake Sustanon and whole discussion does not help their position at all, but at the same time these guys should choose the right products to put effort into. At the same time, patience education and building the brand and reputation as far as product, supply and price concerned is something anybody that selling a brand in a competitive market place has to deal with. Fakes are going to be found out eventually but they are always going to be around.

My advise is to weigh up the facts as far as possible and make an informed decision.